Hello everyone.
My first grow box has been in place for just over a week and I'm waiting for the first pins.
In the course of time, a few questions have arisen for me.
1.
Why is this pointed out not to work with gloves? What is the background to this?
2.
Is light generally required or could the box also be placed in the dark, e.g. in a warm but dark cellar room?
3.
You can grow twice. Does it make sense to start a third attempt afterwards?
4.
What about the leftovers of the cake? Are there any „truffles“ left over after the grow that can still be harvested/used?
5.
I bought Golden Teacher. I see in the store that there is also the B+ option/version.
What exactly does this mean or what is the difference?
Best regards
Fabertron
Hello,
Question 1: The normal (care) gloves are not sterile and contain various impurities. Sterile gloves should work.
Question 2: According to the instructions, mushrooms should be kept in a bright place, not in direct sunlight.
Question 5: Each variety has differences in composition that can be perceived individually. However, they should not be significant.
As I am also just gathering my experience, this is information that I have gathered or learned through exchange. Therefore no answers to the other questions.
VG
Hello!
1. sterile gloves may be a big problem if they are "antibacterial coated".
The question is the other way around, why would anyone want to use gloves? It's about magic mushrooms, not poisons. Picking is also a kind of microdosing.
Would you want to stroke your loved one or your small child with sterile gloves? Why?
If you are working with spores and sterile substrates, spraying disinfectants in inoculation chambers, then I can understand why you would want to use gloves.
But the mushrooms grow naturally and it is natural to pick and eat them, it is nature's way, so wearing gloves is inappropriate at best and fatal for the mycelium at worst.
2. light is needed, a musty cellar - even warm - is not a good idea. The mushrooms grow in a temperature range between 6°C and 30°C, the faster the warmer, but many nasty contaminants grow particularly well when it is warm and not very well ventilated. It is better to have the grow kit in a place that is well ventilated! Temperature is largely irrelevant and as far as light is concerned: as long as there is some light
3. ProviThor has customers who have managed to get 9 flushes from a grow box. Most people manage 3 flushes. You should try up to 5.
The usual reason why there are few flushes is that tap water with poisons (germicidal chemicals) is used. Use distilled water or at least bottled drinking water!
4. no truffles remain and in principle it grows until it is dead and other types of mold take over. It is best to put it in the compost.
5. after the magic mushrooms were banned in 2007, the big time of the cultivation boxes began. In principle this is ONE mushroom, Stropharia Cubesis, but Dutch people are good at marketing and so they took advantage of the fact that this one, extremely easy to grow mushroom, has been cultivated by humans for thousands of years and spread around the world and can be found in many places, and created "strains" from it.
No strain is certified and, with the exception of a very few, it is not possible to tell them apart. Flushes of the same strain can look more different than different strains, but albino can be distinguished from non-albino, but albinos can of course also occur in normal mushroom cultures. Red Boy has different colored spores, which can be easily distinguished.
Otherwise it is marketing and no one can prove any strain, no one has scientifically defined it and no grow box manufacturer gives any proof of any "strain". If magic mushrooms were legal and scientific bodies could deal with them, there would perhaps be genetic analyses and any measurable differences that could be certified. But that's not the case. It's 99% fantasy and 1% completely distorted history.
Salute to Thor
Thank you very much for your answers.
This helped me to understand everything a little better.
It is important for me to be able to understand things well.
If the mycelium has spread in the cake, can it be propagated further in a nutrient solution or agar dish?
I find the topic very interesting and would like to experiment a little.
I also want to do some experiments with spores and rice. ☺️
That's a lot of fun. 😊
If you have a clean room, you could perhaps use the mycelium, but it doesn't make sense. If you want to work with "mycelium", then cut up a mushroom stem and take something from the inside, which is pure. Of course in a clean room or with a good flowbench.
It is better and much easier to work with the spore cap method from Lilli's free mushroom cultivation pdf, you don't need a cleanroom/flowbench for this.
I highly recommend taking Lilli's pdf as a basis. Without exaggeration, it has helped over 1000 people to start growing mushrooms. Everything is self-made and self-optimized for simplicity.
I developed the spore cap method and it is the best way to inoculate new substrate with mushrooms, it is the "natural method" and superior to any other. Better than a liquid culture. But you need a mushroom for it...
I'm going to try that.
I have already read the eBook.
The materials have been ordered and I'll do it when everything arrives.
I'll let you know when everything is done and whether it worked.